Fedora 17 - Gambas3-Gb-Gui non si installa

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" I'm trying to install Gambas 3.0 on my Fedora 17 system and it won't install the
Gambas3-Gb-Gui package because it doesn't like the Gambas3-Runtime version.  How is
it possible that this condition still exists at this end of life stage of Fedora 17?  I would
imagine most users would develop applications with the Gui program rather than some
text editor.  Is there a simple solution to this problem?

Here are the messages I get from Yum:

Error: Package: gambas3-gb-gui-3.0.0-2.fc17.i686 (fedora)
           Requires: gambas3-runtime = 3.0.0-2.fc17
           Installed: gambas3-runtime-3.4.1-1.fc17.i686 (@updates)
               gambas3-runtime = 3.4.1-1.fc17
           Available: gambas3-runtime-3.0.0-2.fc17.i686 (fedora)
               gambas3-runtime = 3.0.0-2.fc17
You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem

Mike "


" It's a pity, but I don't deal with binary packages at all. :-/

Apparently the gambas3-gb-gui package is not up to date (3.0.0 version instead of 3.4.1).

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Benoît Minisini "


" I just tried to download the latest .bz2 file from your web site and there is no 'configure' script.
Are you trying to discourage people from using Gambas 3? I'm having a real hard time getting
my hands on a working version of it.  I hope it's worth all the trouble I'm going through.

Mike "


" You have to run the "./reconf-all" script before running "./configure".

Please read the installation instructions on the web site.

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Benoît Minisini "


" Sorry, Benoit.  I assumed the INSTALL file included in the zip file was up to date.  My mistake.

Mike "


" I don't know how experienced you are with source installations but they
can be troublesome. I had myself problems with it. Luckily someone
pointed out to a pre-compiled binary package in a private repository for
ubuntu. I would suggest you to ask in a Fedora distribution mailing list
for such a package.

Regards,
Fernando "


" I won't bother you anymore after this.  At 61 I'm too old for this much frustration.
Gambas 2 seems to work fine on my system (FC17),  but I wanted see what GB3
had to offer.  I guess I'll never know.

[pryor@fedora15 gambas3-3.4.2]$ ./reconf
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
autoreconf: configure.ac: adding subdirectory main to autoreconf
autoreconf: Entering directory `main'
autoreconf: running: aclocal -I m4 --install
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf
configure:3907: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_DLOPEN
      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
      See the Autoconf documentation.
configure:3908: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBLTDL_CONVENIENCE
configure:3909: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_WIN32_DLL
configure:3910: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DISABLE_STATIC
autoreconf: /usr/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1

Mike "


" Thanks, Fernando.  Fedora does provide a Gambas 3 package but the gambas-gui package
appears not to be updated. Oddly, it is dependent on an older version of gambas-runtime. It
suggests to me that few Fedora users are using Gambas 3.  Which is sad, because Benoit
has created a marvelous programming tool.

I have some experience with the configure, make and make install process and yes sometimes
it goes well and sometimes not.  I guess this is a NOT.

Mike "


" Please disregard my last message.  I ran ./reconf instead of ./reconf-all.
It may be that I'm too stupid to use Gambas.  Perhaps I should stick with TCL.


Mike "

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" I don't mean the official Fedora package, rather a private rpm package
prepared by someone else.

The main issue will be the additional packages you have to install. It's
a long list (check the web site) and for some I could not find a proper
match in the repositories. There were other issues, like the system
finding wrong packages with the same name (e.g., sql.h from wine).

Fernando "


" Maybe I'll give that a try.  The 'reconf-all' script failed for me, so I don't want
to bother Benoit anymore.  I'm sure he has more important work to do than hold
my hand.

Mike "


" I have a Fedora 17 box running. Installed Gambas 3.4.1 right from the
Add/Remove software without any problems. It runs fine on my system.

> I have some experience with the configure, make and make install process and yes sometimes
> it goes well and sometimes not.  I guess this is a NOT.

Might want to check the 'How To Gambas - Installing Gambas' guide, for
some guidance.

Chapter 6, paragraph 6.3 explains Fedora install from official Fedora
repository
Chapter 8, paragraph 8.2 explains installing the source download from
Gambas website for Fedora. Dependencies explained there are still for
Gambas 3.3.4, but as far as I know they are still the same for 3.4.2

Guide can be found at:
http://howtogambas.org/index.php?page=cedi&type=misc&id=1%2F2

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Kind regards,

Willy "


" I just discovered that my PC at home has a functioning Gambas3 installed,
but the package, 'gambas3-gb-gui', is not installed.  I upgraded to FC17
instead of doing a fresh install, so I'm wondering whether the upgrade took
care the problem with the 'gui' package.  And if this package is not installed,
which gui package is running when I run gambas3?

Mike "

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" How did you notice that the package is missing?
Did you check this in the Gambas IDE?
In a Gambas project open menu Project -> Properties and go to tab
components -> see if gb.gui is there and not grayed out.

If so, gb.gui is installed on your system.

I did notice in YumExtender when searching for Gambas3 packages that
gb.gui package was in black font and version 3.0.0, all the others in
green font version 3.4.1.
This seems a bit odd to be, but then again, my Gambas 4.3.1 is working
and not complaining.

I attached some screenshots (vedi allegati) so you can compare it with your own
situation. Screenshots where taken on a Fedora 17 with LXDE desktop.

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Kind regards,

Willy "


" I found out that gb.gui was not installed when I tried to run 'rpm ql gambas3-gb.gui'.
However, there appears to be a gb.gui component in the component tab. Interesting
mystery here.  The tab does not indicate the version of the component.  I wonder
whether the Fedora package manager, 'spot', included the gb.gui components in
another package.

Mike "


" I know why: the gb.gui package should not exist. A mistake was made in
previous versions, and then the gb.gui package has been removed. The
gb.gui component must be packaged in the "runtime" component.

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Benoît Minisini "

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" I have submitted a modified version of the INSTALL file to Benoit, that
fixes the wording to match the website, so that at least a part of your
confusion (and mine) will be avoided in the future.

Paul "